What is your role at GumGum?

I am the lead recruiter here at GumGum, which means I lead all of our recruiting efforts: not just the actual recruiting (finding the right candidates for various positions), but also different talent acquisition initiatives—candidate experience, diversity and inclusion, community engagement and so on.

What do you enjoy most about being a part of the recruiting team?

The things I enjoy most are collaborating with the different people on the talent and acquisition team, and creating everything from scratch.

How did you learn about GumGum?

It was actually a targeted ad on my LinkedIn newsfeed. It worked, apparently—I’m here! 

What's something most people don't know about you?

I competed in eSports before eSports was an actual thing. During and right after college, I did a lot of video game tournaments for a couple different games: all the Street Fighter fighting games, Capcom vs. SNK 2, Marvel vs. Capcom 2. It’s a little too intense for me now, but I'll still play a little Smash Bros. here at work.

What is your favorite book?

My favorite book of all time is Moby Dick. As for some of my favorite recent books that are more relevant to us and GumGum… There's a book called Homo Deus, which is basically about the next evolution of humans: what comes after Homo sapiens. It gets into all the technology and politics and stuff involved with getting to those next levels—one, living longer or becoming immortal; two, extreme bliss and happiness; and the third one is basically omniscience through the internet and stuff like that.

It's super interesting, and it takes a view that starts where humans are now, dabbles a bit in the hunter-gatherer days, zips over to the Industrial Revolution and how that changed us, then gets back to how we are today. And it uses that to predict where we're going in the future, which is super cool. It's a little more palatable than Superintelligence, which Ophir recommends, which is also a really good book—but it's just so thick and hard to digest, cognitively.

Another good book that I think is super relevant, and it'll seem kinda extreme and radical, is a book called Stealing Fire. It reveals different states of flow and peak performance that people get into, and how they get into them; and it evaluates how those states affect work and life. It goes from Tibetan monks to Burners at Burning Man, to Navy Seals, to top-level CEOs in Silicon Valley.